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Post by LedZep04 » Wed May 26, 2004 3:15 am

OH and thanks for trying to make things better. Too bad the Admins couldn't talk to us.
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Post by OverDrive » Wed May 26, 2004 5:58 am

Originally posted by LedZep04@May 26 2004, 03:15 AM

OH and thanks for trying to make things better. Too bad the Admins couldn't talk to us.


I approved this and I said this is a viable solution to the issue



the admins are inundated with stuff to do and so forth. I asked him to post it
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Post by daffodildreams » Wed May 26, 2004 6:38 am

There used to be a lot of artwork and stuff in the Self Expression forum. People for the time being could use..



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People who write poems could use chicken soup for the teenage soul, they have a large forum on there.

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Post by poetic_queeny » Wed May 26, 2004 6:53 am

i reckon the whole self-expression forum should just be brought bacvk because its what ppl r used to!! god sake...dat aint a compromise...a cropromise offers summit the other side wants! aaaaaaaarrrggghh!!



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Post by SpargoMn » Wed May 26, 2004 9:08 am

I actually was going to post my new paintings but they stole my forum. I was proud of self-expression damn it, as the first moderator there I took a lot of pride, but now the hard work and creativity of many has been deleted without so much as a pm to me. I think this is a breakdown in communication, yes we could go to deviant art or post on our live journals or what have you but teenhelp is a comunity we ant to show ho and what we are, we like the people here and value their opinions to a degree so we want to sho it to THEM not to some random deviant art person I don't know. I think teenhelp needs to stop shrinking. rock on.



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Post by junglemonkey » Wed May 26, 2004 9:34 am

I think it's a really good idea. Not only will everyone get to post their poetry and artwork, people who need to hear something inspirational about a certain topic know where to go. If they want to hear something good, as in a poem or something, about relationships they can go into that forum.
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Post by Sliver » Wed May 26, 2004 9:41 am

y dont they do a different compromise... open ONLY the Self-Expression forum- leave the help forums to what theyre for, and have the self-expression forum for all poems etc. better compromise i think.... *pm's OD*
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Post by junglemonkey » Wed May 26, 2004 9:43 am

But self-expression helps you cope with your problems doesn't it? Therefore it's a legitamite idea, except they won't all be in one forum that's the only difference. You can still post your poetry or whatever and get it critiqued.
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Post by xJuliex » Wed May 26, 2004 10:17 am

I still want self-expression back.
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Well, would you rather have this or no self-expression at all? Yeah, thought so...



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Post by broken4ubyu » Wed May 26, 2004 11:39 am

Id rather have all or none. These changes to teehelp really blow. Nice try with the idea though, but i don't think its a very good one
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Post by Eowyn » Wed May 26, 2004 11:59 am

I'm not even going to take the time to read all of this. Putting poems and stories in appropriate fourms before was wrong. They'd always be moved somewhere else. It's going to be difficult to even find the poems because people felt safe posting in self-expression and now that has been taken away. I'm sorry-but I don't see how any of this is going to work unless we get back our fourms...
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Post by LedZep04 » Wed May 26, 2004 12:48 pm

Originally posted by OverDrive+May 26 2004, 01:58 AM--<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'<tr<tdQUOTE (OverDrive @ May 26 2004, 01:58 AM)</td</tr<tr<td id='QUOTE'<!--QuoteBegin-LedZep04@May 26 2004, 03:15 AM

OH and thanks for trying to make things better. Too bad the Admins couldn't talk to us.


I approved this and I said this is a viable solution to the issue



the admins are inundated with stuff to do and so forth. I asked him to post it[/b][/quote]





WAIT.. Last time I checked Doug was a member NOT A MOD OR A ADMIN. I hope you could read that good. If you are the one making the choices at least TELL US YOURSELF. If you are going to change the rules then say it yourself. Don't have other people do it for you. Look at the responses to this.. look at all the mods that even want it back. Do you not care about what we want on here? It's not the fact we want to chit chat but we met people there and made friends. We opened up from there, and many many people I saw posting in Chit Chat Forum also posted in other forums helping people. How could you tell me they didn't? I didn't see YOU going forum to forum helping now did I? I think you need to think about this and make a better choice for the people instead of what some little whiners that wanted more people to go to their forum? Let me guess it was religion forum! Hey speaking of religion why is that forum still there? I rarely see questions more debates if anything. So why don't you go take that off too? This is all so stupid. You guys really don't know how to make choices at all on here.
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Post by Eowyn » Wed May 26, 2004 12:54 pm

I rarely see admin helping people...I guess for them its like communist rule-not teenhelp. They don't have to help because they're too busy editing posts and changing the site to make our lives miserable.



And I agree-we made a lot of friends in the lounge-just take a look at post history of those who post in there-don't tell me you don't see them posting somewhere else, because they do and you can't deny it...gah! I was expecting to get work done this block, but instead I've stayed on here fighting...



I thought we were adults...not childern-this makes me think of little three year olds. One steals something away the other has a fit. No one wins in the end normally. I'm really really upset and angry with all of this but can we PLEASE act like adults and try to reach a solution everyone likes and not one the admin think will work without consulting everyone else??
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Post by junglemonkey » Wed May 26, 2004 1:14 pm

The point of getting the self expression forum back was so you all could post poetry and such and get it commented on by the other users - you're still getting that this way!! It's just different to what you're used to. It's just because it's changing and no one likes change.



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Post by OverDrive » Wed May 26, 2004 1:19 pm

Originally posted by Eowyn+May 26 2004, 12:54 PM--<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'<tr<tdQUOTE (Eowyn @ May 26 2004, 12:54 PM)</td</tr<tr<td id='QUOTE'I thought we were adults...not childern-this makes me think of little three year olds. One steals something away the other has a fit. No one wins in the end normally. I'm really really upset and angry with all of this but can we PLEASE act like adults and try to reach a solution everyone likes and not one the admin think will work without consulting everyone else??[/b]


Then act like adults... so far all i see are children bickering about a change. Change is inevitable... get used to it. Remember how much bitching went on when we removed helplink? Hell I still get a few feedback requests asking where it went and shit.



<!--QuoteBegin-LedZep04@May 26 2004, 12:48 PM

[b]WAIT.. Last time I checked Doug was a member NOT A MOD OR A ADMIN. I hope you could read that good. If you are the one making the choices at least TELL US YOURSELF. If you are going to change the rules then say it yourself. Don't have other people do it for you. Look at the responses to this.. look at all the mods that even want it back. Do you not care about what we want on here? It's not the fact we want to chit chat but we met people there and made friends. We opened up from there, and many many people I saw posting in Chit Chat Forum also posted in other forums helping people. How could you tell me they didn't? I didn't see YOU going forum to forum helping now did I? I think you need to think about this and make a better choice for the people instead of what some little whiners that wanted more people to go to their forum? Let me guess it was religion forum! Hey speaking of religion why is that forum still there? I rarely see questions more debates if anything. So why don't you go take that off too? This is all so stupid. You guys really don't know how to make choices at all on here.[/b][/quote]



Doug was a member and yes I asked him to post it and he even said that it was approved by the admins.... so if you look at it from this point of view - it's approved, an admin didnt remove this post, an admin commented on it saying he approved it, it just so happens that this admin has a full time job (where I am at right now) and a full time girlfriend (to whom I am seeing tonight) and still have enough time to A, setup better applications on teenhelp, B, add articles to the website, C, setup helpnet (YES HELPNET IS COMING BACK!!!!!!!!), D, taking care of posts in my forums on the SG's, and between all of that, I lose sleep because of it. Last night I had 4 hours of sleep.... tonight, maybe the same.



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Post by LedZep04 » Wed May 26, 2004 1:31 pm

I was saying that if YOU and the other ADMINS were the ones that took down chit chat then you all should update on it yourself. If you had enough time to decide to take it down then you all should have enough time to let us know what the hell is going on. Ok sure you guys have different priorites but I didn't see doug take down chit chat. It was you and all the other admins that decided it so you all should be the ones telling us. It's like being a teacher that gives you an F on the test w/o a reason. You ask them why and they tell another student to tell you. Oh and don't call us children please :) We just want our chit chat back because you guys had NO GOOD REASON to take it away. So how about you give us a good damn reason why it's gone instead of some stupid bullshit answer.
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Post by LedZep04 » Wed May 26, 2004 1:41 pm

Oh and to everyone else obviously chit chat will never come back if you go up and read the post by overdrive.. this place pisses me off now. i bet a lot of people will stop coming here because of this. Not because chit chats gone but because of the way this was handled. You guys obviously don't know how to run this site right. You admins made a stupid stupid choice. Oh and btw I want the religion forum gone.. I think everyone should want it gone since it's pure drama. Go take a look at the first topic there.. wow it's drama.. what do you know?
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Post by PurplePoemPuppet » Wed May 26, 2004 1:52 pm

LedZep... give it a rest. No where in there does Adam say that chit chat is not coming back. While he doesn't say that he has full intentions (or any) of bringing it back, he doesn't say that he's not. It's a change. Stop getting so hellbent on a freaking internet site. If you're so pissed off with the site, then leave. People here are acting like children, and you've got to remember, most here ARE kids. Teens are still kids. You aren't adults here.



Simply because you don't like the reason given doesn't mean it isn't justified. And this is not YOUR site. You are a user on this site and as such, you shouldn't be making such a big stink about a missing forum. You choose to come to the site and it's setup. If you don't like it... go elsewhere and stop complaining.
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Post by xJuliex » Wed May 26, 2004 2:16 pm

Just let it rest people. If you don't like it, leave. If not, stay and stop complaining constantly. I'm getting tired of it...and to think I was the one complaining earlier. Lol.
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