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alright, I'm all for helping people with their questions, some rants , and asking for help on quitting SI. HOWEVER, I am tired of seeing people giving these utterly cheesy "don't do it" posts. They don't help anyone. At all. If they could stop that easily, they wouldn't be posting here. Now if you honestly don't have anything to say other than "please don't" or "I'm gonna cry if you do", then don't post at all. Ya get me?



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Friend,



Thanks for your little rant......



Though I am not experienced in this area much, I have to say that something helps more than nothing, and some people really care and are just not educated in how to help people with these problems... So I would suggest that you either give a way that people can help better or just stop complaining. There is no reason to cut people down, or discourage an effort to help.



I understand that those types of posts don't help much if any, but at least the person knows someone cares. If you discourage the posts all together, wouldn't that hurt the situation more than help......



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Originally posted by FiZzBaW@Jun 23 2004, 11:30 PM

Friend,



Thanks for your little rant......



Though I am not experienced in this area much, I have to say that something helps more than nothing, and some people really care and are just not educated in how to help people with these problems... So I would suggest that you either give a way that people can help better or just stop complaining. There is no reason to cut people down, or discourage an effort to help.



I understand that those types of posts don't help much if any, but at least the person knows someone cares. If you discourage the posts all together, wouldn't that hurt the situation more than help......



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True, but I've seen people avoid posting their issues because of the (mediocre?) answers. So, I guess it could go either way.
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I think it's useless to have a post with only "don't do it" in it, but I think I would say that along with some other advice :huh: Hmm...I'm not sure. I'm not too good at helping with that sort of thing, but it's hard to come up with simple solutions for problems as serious as that. Not many people here are that experienced in actually helping people, for real, so I think most of them have the best intentions, even if they don't actually help. If it's just to raise post counts then that's annoying..but hey, something is better than nothing...maybe?
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now wait a second. true that some people only wanna have more posts but thats not the case for everyone. im prolly one of the annoying people you talk about. though i dont do it too often. what i say is "dont cut cuz it doesnt help anyone and yr just gonna hate yrself for it later." then i tell them if they need a chat im here for them. i know it doesnt help too much but at least they know they have someone to turn to when it gets bad. im sorry you dont understand why *some* people do that...



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I kind of agree with Deralti though. I don't even notice the post counts. *looks in Jeff's direction* cough cough... : P
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i understand where Deralti is comming. yes statements like that arent much help in some cases. but sometimes i guess they can be. it just depends on the person i guess. maybe instead of sayin things like "dont do it" someoen can also offer some other advice on how to not do it. ::::shurgs:::: just a thought. anyway..thats my thoughts and that. and if someone just posts something that only says "dont do it" then yea thats not really helping...but dont post things like that just to get a higher post count. no one should do that..you should post stuff bcuz you want to help others, not to get a bigger number. im not pointing fingers at anyone now (i have no one to point at..lol) so please dont jump on me for anything.
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I agree with you on this. When I don't know what to say to a post- with a serious problem, or not serious, I don't post anything until I'm really ready to think about WHY they shouldn't do it, because obviously they've thought "I shouldn't do this.." and it hasn't helped. People need to provide REASONS for things- and thats why I think there are one or two mods that shouldn't BE mods because all they write is "Dont do this- come on, please don't. Pm me if you want." - I mean, its nice and all, but when someone has this whole long post, they want ANSWERS, OPINIONS, not just "dont do it" or pm me if you need help- they obviously want the help..



I guess its good to have someone show that they care though- but, I definately agree with you.
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But dosent

it help

to know

someon cares?



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you cant give suggestions though besides "oh try writing, it helps" or something because most of the suggestions are against the rules :huh:
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If people really thought about it, they could definitely come up with better suggestions than "start a journal" or a 1 word reply. Seriously, I know people who post want lots of posts to their topics but they also want ADVICE.



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Originally posted by Pariah@Jun 25 2004, 04:31 PM

But dosent

it help

to know

someon cares?



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It always helps- but usually they're asking advice on a specific matter, and POSTING so people can give ANSWERS and OPINIONS, not "it will be okay! This will go away soon! Pm me if you want to talk!" Because, the more you do that to peoples posts, the LESS it will mean something.



And beautiful, there are many suggestions other than "oh try writing, it helps" - if one cant think of better suggestions , if they dont try harder to come up with something unique and helpful, then... maybe one should think about their placement.
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