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Sovek, the economy was slowing down, yes, but a recession was not coming when Clinton left office. The economy had to slow down, the fed was making sure of it because if it didn't slow down, inflation would have skyrocketed.
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presidents don't really control economies, though they can try to help it out.
And the jobs, look at it now, outsourcing , offshoring
And the jobs, look at it now, outsourcing , offshoring
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That list isn't accurate. It only lists accomplishments that will make people who dislike Bush seem right. At least list good things about him as well. Not acknowledging everything and only the negative things is a bit ignorant.
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Doug I'm sorry but you are wrong. If you do not think that there are terrorist ready to attack America as a whole or individuals then you have no brain. Hello, what was 9/11. I suppose you guys think Bush set that up or something. I wish that everyone would stop bitching about President Bush, because he has accomplished many great things that you alll so conviently overlook. It's absolutely ridiculous that you are sitting here ridiculing him when you all say the same untrue things. Sheesh, think before you talk!Originally posted by Doug@Jun 30 2004, 03:49 AM
terrorist
\Ter"ror*ist\, n. [F. terroriste.] One who governs by terrorism or intimidation
Wow, I guess this means that Bush is a terrorist....
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Jerseygirl, everything that I've said is the truth. I do not lie, especially about a public figure. I'm not "Bush-bashing" because I hate the guy, I'm "Bush-bashing" (and I hate the guy) because he has totally screwed up in his 4 years in office. Just 2 examples:
The No Child Left Behind Act: a) There is almost no funding for this. B. If a school has little funding for good books, good teachers, etc. and they can't do a good job on this national test, the school LOSES MORE FUNDING in an effort to make them do BETTER on the test. c) The Act says that by 2010, the country should have a 100% graduation rate.
The Patriot Act: We lose our 4th-6th amendment rights and have the potential to lose our 1st amendment right. Innocent people are spied on and the FBI is sent to talk to people just because they are anti-Bush.
What great things has this guy done? "He removed a ruthless dictator." - Yeah, by lying to the American people, misleading them into sending their sons and daughters into war, with no international support, no international troops, causing about 900 deaths and rising.
"He passed huge tax cuts." - Yes, that sent us spiraling further into national debt and put a few hundred dollars in the pockets of unemployed Americans.
"He's creating new jobs." - 2/3 of which are very low paying jobs. And we're STILL about a million jobs down from the time he took office.
I did not say there are not terrorists waiting to attack America, please do not make assumptions and then attempt to insult me. Obviously there are terrorists waiting to attack us, but there are many more now than there were when Clinton left office. The "War on Terror" is failing because the Bush Administration is absolutley awful at foreign relations. We are despised worldwide.
Lastly, by that definition, I am right that Bush is a terrorist. He uses intimidation to get his way. That definition says that using intimidation makes you a terrorist.
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The No Child Left Behind Act: a) There is almost no funding for this. B. If a school has little funding for good books, good teachers, etc. and they can't do a good job on this national test, the school LOSES MORE FUNDING in an effort to make them do BETTER on the test. c) The Act says that by 2010, the country should have a 100% graduation rate.
The Patriot Act: We lose our 4th-6th amendment rights and have the potential to lose our 1st amendment right. Innocent people are spied on and the FBI is sent to talk to people just because they are anti-Bush.
What great things has this guy done? "He removed a ruthless dictator." - Yeah, by lying to the American people, misleading them into sending their sons and daughters into war, with no international support, no international troops, causing about 900 deaths and rising.
"He passed huge tax cuts." - Yes, that sent us spiraling further into national debt and put a few hundred dollars in the pockets of unemployed Americans.
"He's creating new jobs." - 2/3 of which are very low paying jobs. And we're STILL about a million jobs down from the time he took office.
I did not say there are not terrorists waiting to attack America, please do not make assumptions and then attempt to insult me. Obviously there are terrorists waiting to attack us, but there are many more now than there were when Clinton left office. The "War on Terror" is failing because the Bush Administration is absolutley awful at foreign relations. We are despised worldwide.
Lastly, by that definition, I am right that Bush is a terrorist. He uses intimidation to get his way. That definition says that using intimidation makes you a terrorist.
Doug
PS. The reason B doesn't have a ) is because together they made the guy with the sunglasses.
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nicely said doug:D ,
and jersey girl, you say that he has done "great" things, please explain the "great" things he has done? and all your doing is assuming, so i'll assume i know a HELL of alot more then you do about him.
and jersey girl, you say that he has done "great" things, please explain the "great" things he has done? and all your doing is assuming, so i'll assume i know a HELL of alot more then you do about him.
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Really, well I'm glad you're so smart. I want to be a political science major, I have reasearced politics beyond your beliefs, so don't assume so much smarty.Originally posted by Niox@Jul 8 2004, 09:49 PM
nicely said doug:D ,
and jersey girl, you say that he has done "great" things, please explain the "great" things he has done? and all your doing is assuming, so i'll assume i know a HELL of alot more then you do about him.
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Well, I'm going to be a political science minor, so we have something in common. Care to respond to the post up there?
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The large one at the top of this page...
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I could not have said it better myself. While I dont think that Bush is a terrorist as in "ok-go-ahead-and-bomb-the-place-because-I-dont-like-them" (only because I havent seen any proof but I suspect).....I believe that Bush in a sense is a terrorist. Personally I believe that he might have had some sort of deal with Osama or wat's his name.......the one who they captured with the messed up beard (I forget his name), the ex-dictator of Iraq, that might have gone awry and hence now the country, well I should say us....the third class people.........are screwed.
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The bush administration is doing exactly what is need. America needs its respect back which we lost during the push over clintion administration. Why do we need permission to defend ourselfs?
What makes you think America has to earn its respect by invading other nations? Foreign relations shouldn't be a pissing contest with bombs while innocent people are used as a urinal.
And since when was invading Iraq 'defending ourselves'? Sure, Bush and Co. made it sound like big bad Saddam was a pubic hair away from creating World War III, but we now know otherwise.
As for this War on Terror, do you honestly believe this has had any significant impact on terrorism other than create more terrorists and offer US troops as sacrificial lambs?
Theres not much to say about this. Yes it takes away freedoms, but it does protect us. The Patriot Act is fully needed to combat terrorism and has already been proven to work. Blame computers and digital technology for giving the government the power to "spy" on americans. im perfectly fine with people i will never talk to or see in my life read my email messages or listen to my phone calls(if that ever actually happens). i have nothing worth hiding.
Your argument would be legit if the majority of Americans agreed with you, and didn't mind the government spying on them. But this is not the case.
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YoAliens, you're right, I'm tired of disputing the same points with you. That's why I was asking JerseyGirl to tell me her beliefs. But, of course, you came to put in your two cents. Thanks. So, I'm just going to respond to one of your quotes and then I will probably be done with this thread unless something new comes up...
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Yes it takes away freedoms, but it does protect us.
"He who is willing to sacrifice liberty for a small measure of safety deserves neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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pfffff,
you're calling him a kiddo even though your 2 years younger then him?
Facts eh? JUST LIKE THE FACTS CONCERNING IRAQ????????
ya....bush doesn't lie , maybe you need to do a little more research there jersey girl
you're calling him a kiddo even though your 2 years younger then him?
he used facts to get his way
Facts eh? JUST LIKE THE FACTS CONCERNING IRAQ????????
If Iraq is so bad, why does the Bush Administration have to repeatedly Lie to start a war?
1. Powell relies on FORGED documents to link Saddam to terror.
MSNBC: "They have been the closest of allies. But under the intense pressure of a diplomatic crisis at the United Nations and an imminent war in Iraq, the friendship between the United States and Britain is beginning to fray. The most recent strain emerged when U.N. nuclear inspectors concluded last week that U.S. and British claims about Iraq's secret nuclear program were based on forged documents. The fake letters supposedly laid out how Iraqi agents had tried to purchase uranium from officials in Niger, central Africa."
MORE: http://www.msnbc.com/news/883164.asp?cp1=1
CNN: WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Intelligence documents that U.S. and British governments said were strong evidence that Iraq was developing nuclear weapons have been dismissed as forgeries by U.N. weapons inspectors.
MORE: http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/14/sprj.i ... index.html
Sydney Morning Herald, Australia: The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei, has demonstrated that UK and US intelligence authorities relied on forged documents to support assertions that Iraq was trying to buy uranium in Africa.
MORE: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/ ... 40556.html
LA Times: WASHINGTON -- Phony weapons documents cited by the United States and Britain as evidence against Saddam Hussein were initially obtained by Italian intelligence authorities, who may have been duped into paying for the forgeries, U.S. officials said Friday. The documents, which purport to show Iraqi efforts to acquire uranium from Niger, were exposed as fraudulent by U.N. weapons inspectors last week. The matter has embarrassed U.S. and British officials.
MORE: http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-docs15mar1 ... 6930.story
And even more:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=afr ... +documents
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2. Bush/Powell's UN "evidence" relies on even MORE supposedly "up to date" FORGED documents to link Saddam to terror.
CNN: Large chunks of the 19-page report -- highlighted by U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell at the U.N. as a " fine paper ... which describes in exquisite detail Iraqi deception activities" -- contains large chunks lifted from other sources, according to several academics. " The British government's dossier is 19 pages long and most of pages 6 to 16 are copied directly from that document word for word, even the grammatical errors and typographical mistakes," Rangwala said. Al-Marashi's article, published last September, was based on information obtained at the time of the 1991 Gulf War, Rangwala said. " The information he was using is 12 years old and he acknowledges this in his article. The British government, when it transplants that information into its own dossier, does not make that acknowledgement. " So it is presented as current information about Iraq, when really the information it is using is 12 years old."
MORE: http://asia.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/02 ... k.dossier/
UK Guardian: Downing Street was last night plunged into acute international embarrassment after it emerged that large parts of the British government's latest dossier on Iraq - allegedly based on "intelligence material" - were taken from published academic articles, some of them several years old. Amid charges of "scandalous" plagiarism on the night when Tony Blair attempted to rally support for the US-led campaign against Saddam Hussein, Whitehall's dismay was compounded by the knowledge that the disputed document was singled out for praise by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, in his speech to the UN security council on Wednesday.
MORE: http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/ ... 69,00.html
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/ ... 62,00.html
http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/207939.htm
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3. Bush/Powell tries to use edited audio-tape to LIE about Saddam/Bin Laden Connection.
NY Times: It offered little evidence of an alliance between Mr. Hussein and Mr. bin Laden, but it did seem to validate Arab leaders' warnings that Islamic extremists would exploit any assault on Baghdad to further inflame the region.
MORE: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/12/inter ... 2TAPE.html
NY Times: Germany dismissed Wednesday U.S. claims that a new audiotape purportedly by Osama bin Laden proved he was in league with Iraq, while some Muslims were cheered by the possibility the accused mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks was still alive.
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Philadelphia Daily News: But if bin Laden was trying to show personal solidarity with Saddam himself, he had a strange way of doing so. He denounced Saddam's secular, socialist al-Baath party as "infidels." What's more, the statement said that Iraq's rulers had "lost their credibility long ago" and that "socialists are infidels wherever they are." He didn't even mention Saddam by name.
MORE: http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/5157847.htm
Salon.com: War, lies and audiotape If truth is the first casualty of war, then this war's second casualty is the credibility of Colin Powell. Yesterday morning he insisted that the new tape from Osama bin Laden would show a "partnership" between al-Qaida and Iraq. He told the nation that he had a transcript of bin Laden's remarks. Understandably, however, the secretary of state didn't read from the transcript he claimed to have in his possession -- because it so clearly contradicted the headlines he was trying to create.
MORE: http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/20 ... ex_np.html
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4. Bush/Powell LIES again about Saddam's ability to deliver weapons of mass destruction.
News Interactive: An Iraqi drone found by UN weapons inspectors is of "very primitive" design and is definitely not capable of flying 500km as suggested by US Secretary of State Colin Powell, Jane's Defence Weekly said today.
On February 5, Powell told the UN Security Council that the Iraqis possessed a drone that could fly 500km, violating UN rules that limit the range of Iraqi weapons to 150km. " There is no possibility that the design shown on 12 March has the capability to fly anywhere near 500 kilometres," drones expert Ken Munson said on Jane's website (http://jdw.janes.com). " The design looks very primitive, and the engines -- which have their pistons exposed -- appear to be low-powered," he said.
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Originally from the NY Times: AL TAJI, Iraq -- To hear senior Bush administration officials tell it, Iraq's latest pilotless drone has the potential to be one of Saddam Hussein's deadliest weapons, able to deliver terrifying payloads of chemical and biological warfare agents across Iraq's borders to Israel or other neighboring states. It could even, they say, be broken down and smuggled into the United States for use in terrorist attacks. But viewed up close yesterday by reporters hastened by Iraqi officials to the Ibn Firnas weapons plant outside Baghdad, the vehicle the Iraqis have code-named RPV-30A, for remotely piloted vehicle, looked more like something out of the Rube Goldberg museum of aeronautical design than anything that could threaten Iraq's foes. To the layman's eye, the unveiling of the Iraqi prototype seemed to lend the crisis over Iraq's weapons an aura less of deadly threat than of farce.
"In any case, he and other officials said, the vehicle could not be controlled from a distance of more than 5 miles, in good weather, since its controllers tracked it "with the naked eye."
MORE: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/ ... ne13.shtml
Boston Globe: Duct tape reinforced by aluminum foil held together the black and white drone's balsa wood wings. The wooden propellers and tiny engines were fastened to a well-worn fuselage, fashioned from the fuel tank of a larger aircraft. The words ''God is Great'' were hand painted in red ink on both sides. Perched on a sawhorse at a military research base 20 miles north of Baghdad, the drone looked more like a large school science project than a vehicle capable of delivering chemical and biological weapons. Iraqi officials denied the airplane had any strategic use.
More: Article Link
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5. Bush/Powell LIE about Iraq's Nuclear capabilities concerning "aluminum tubes":
ABC News: Before Congress, and in public, President Bush and Secretary of State Colin Powell have repeatedly pointed to aluminum tubes imported by Iraq which they say are for use in making nuclear weapons. But on Friday, head United Nations nuclear inspector Mohammad ElBaradei told the Security Council that it wasn't likely that the tubes were for that use. ElBaradei also said that documents Bush had cited and relied upon to make the case that Iraq tried to buy uranium from a country in central Africa were fake.
More: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/2020 ... dence.html
Washington Post: The finding: Iraq had tried to buy thousands of high-strength aluminum tubes, which Bush said were "used to enrich uranium for a nuclear weapon." But according to government officials and weapons experts, the claim now appears to be seriously in doubt. After weeks of investigation, U.N. weapons inspectors in Iraq are increasingly confident that the aluminum tubes were never meant for enriching uranium, according to officials familiar with the inspection process. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the U.N.-chartered nuclear watchdog, reported in a Jan. 8 preliminary assessment that the tubes were "not directly suitable" for uranium enrichment
ya....bush doesn't lie , maybe you need to do a little more research there jersey girl
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