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Post by oneforthemoney » Wed Jan 15, 2003 10:55 pm

Right...what do you guys think? I mean, did anyone see the footage taken from the cockpit of the jet? That's pretty intense....



Do you think the american pilots deserve to be punished? I mean, ...do you think it was intentionally?

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Post by Jake » Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:07 pm

Hey, I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about....mind explaining?
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Post by Jaegermeister » Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:36 pm

Same here... but then again... I don't own a TV (my roommate does, and I rarely watch it).



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Post by oneforthemoney » Thu Jan 16, 2003 12:05 am

Lol, ....where have you guys been ??? The US pilots...that killed Canadian soldiers during a friendly fire ....somewhere in afghanistan I think...it happened a couple of months ago, and now the two pilots are on trial, and they've been showing the video from the cockpit over and over again....

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Post by Jaegermeister » Thu Jan 16, 2003 12:26 am

Ooohhhh... now I remember. I have not seen the video though, because I don't own a TV remember ;)



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Post by oneforthemoney » Thu Jan 16, 2003 1:14 am

you don't own a tv? that would make me .......wait.....I wouldnt mind not having one...but in this case......GET ONE..jk...hehe, no its no prob...just wanna know if you think its right for the US pilots to be punished for killing those Canadians during a friendly fire.

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Post by CanadaCraig » Thu Jan 16, 2003 2:47 am

Hi 'oneforthemoney'!! :)



Should those two U.S. pilots be 'punished'?? Absolutely YES!! But [and this is a big 'but'] only IF they either went against 'procedure' and/or disobeyed a direct order NOT to 'fire'.



But beyond all of that.... I think what has to be looked into is the use of 'pep-pills'. It is quite common [apparently] for pilots to be given 'wake-up-pills' whenever they go on a long mission. Perhaps THAT is what should be examined [most of all] during this trial.



No doubt - both of those American pilots [and the entire American Airforce] regret what happened. Not for one second do I think that ANY American would want to bomb a Canadian on purpose. [and visa versa]



The problem with this trial is that no one wants some other pilot to avoid bombing a REAL enemy because he's worried about being arrested and thrown into prison. War is all about milliseconds. One millisecond late - and you could be killed.



The entire case [I believe] rests on 'intent'. I do not believe - therefore - that the two American pilots are guility. [although - perhaps out of respect TO those 4 Canadians - they should be 'grounded' for a while]



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Post by oneforthemoney » Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:51 pm

Canada Craig!



Awesome post - now that what I was looking for....



I agree that the US pilots should be "punished" but maybe not extremely....If they were on those pill than I'd say that has to be investigated, and how can you really honestly tell whose who on a battle field? If they violated orders...yeah for sure - punish 'em.



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Post by oneforthemoney » Fri Jan 17, 2003 9:34 pm

well that clears things up........tisk tisk

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Post by xxwhereisfredxx » Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:21 am

I think that they should be punished for it! they WERE warned that there were canadians there, and they went ahead and bombed em without gettin clearance from the wherever the heck they're supposed to get it. Sure its gonna suck for their families but they made a mistake, and it definately sucks more for the families of the ppl they killed. I really dont think these drugs should make a difference!
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Post by partykid12 » Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:43 am

From what it seems is that the pilots superiors denied permission to fire upon the "target." The only permission they had was to fire only if acting in self-defense. They were flying over marked training grounds and I think that both the Pentagon and the pilots are at fault for this. The Pentagon because they did not advise the pilot of the training grounds that the pilot was obviously flying over and the pilot because he should know better. I do not think that the pilots should go to jail because it was a mistake, unfortunetly it was a mistake that caused the lives of 4 innocent people but it was a mistake. With their jobs a mistake is a big one but their jobs are hard enough and if they were actually being fired upon then I would have done the same thing. Court marshal yes, but jail no in my opinion.



The "go pills" that these pilots ingest are not illegal drugs, they are amphetamines that boost ones energy to be able to fly several hours. Amphetamines are not illegal, Methamphetmines yes are illegal. Although scheduled the military probably gives out "prescriptions" so that the pilots can obtain them legally. Also I do not think that these pills make a difference on their judgments, I have taken these pills before and it might give you more energy or whatever but it doesn't mess your mind up enough to kill. BTW I dont understand how they can take these pills and just sit in a cockpit for hours, I chain smoke when im on Amphetamines lol.
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Post by Queergrrl » Mon Feb 24, 2003 2:20 pm

What ever happend to the pilots during trial and what not? Have they been charged yet?
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