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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by SirPostAlot » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:30 pm

Originally posted by yoaliens3000@Feb 2 2005, 06:36 PM

in my opinion, being homosexual is not a sin. participating in homosexual activities is a sin.

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do you believe that participating in heterosexual activities is a sin?



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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by Beautiful » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:35 pm

Thats not a sin... becuase its not gay or whatever. god. its so messed up.
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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by yoaliens3000 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:54 pm

Originally posted by ~*~AiM_uSeR~*~+Feb 2 2005, 10:30 PM--
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do you believe that participating in heterosexual activities is a sin?



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after marriage, no it is not a sin. before marriage, it definitely is.

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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by Beautiful » Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:22 am

well ofcoarse it is.... i think everyone knows that one :P haha. but what about masturbation. is that a sin? or doing it with the same sex? o.O
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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by l3rok3n » Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:52 am

Originally posted by Beautiful@Feb 2 2005, 02:15 PM

woah... you cant HELP being homosexual. gay people have TRIED being straight but they can't.

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You may not be able to control who you have feelings for and who you are attracted to but you have control over if you act on those feelings or not. No matter which way you look at it if you are African American you can't not be African American.
You called yesterday to basically say

That you care for me but that you're just not in love

Immediately I pretended to be feeling similarly

And led you to believe I was O.K.

To just walk away from the one thing

That's unyielding and sacred to me

Well I guess I'm trying to be nonchalant about it

And I'm going to extremes to prove I'm fine without you

But in reality I'm slowly losing my my mind

Underneath the guise of a smile gradually I'm dying inside

Friends ask me how I feel and I lie convincingly

'Cause I don't want to reveal the fact that I'm suffering

So I wear my disguise 'til I go home at night

And turn down all the lights and then break down and cry

So what do you do when somebody you're devoted to

Suddenly just stops loving you and it seems they haven't got a clue

Of the pain that rejection is putting you through

Do you cling to your pride and sing "I will survive"

Do you lash out and say "How dare you leave this way"

Do you hold on in vain as they just slip away

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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by silvertears » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:03 am

unless your michael jackson but thats another story lol
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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by l3rok3n » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:06 am

Originally posted by silvertears@Feb 3 2005, 12:03 AM

unless your michael jackson but thats another story lol

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Ugh lol that guy is creepy. I don't even know how he turned white. I am sure it took a lot of time and money though.
You called yesterday to basically say

That you care for me but that you're just not in love

Immediately I pretended to be feeling similarly

And led you to believe I was O.K.

To just walk away from the one thing

That's unyielding and sacred to me

Well I guess I'm trying to be nonchalant about it

And I'm going to extremes to prove I'm fine without you

But in reality I'm slowly losing my my mind

Underneath the guise of a smile gradually I'm dying inside

Friends ask me how I feel and I lie convincingly

'Cause I don't want to reveal the fact that I'm suffering

So I wear my disguise 'til I go home at night

And turn down all the lights and then break down and cry

So what do you do when somebody you're devoted to

Suddenly just stops loving you and it seems they haven't got a clue

Of the pain that rejection is putting you through

Do you cling to your pride and sing "I will survive"

Do you lash out and say "How dare you leave this way"

Do you hold on in vain as they just slip away

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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by PurplePoemPuppet » Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:05 am

Originally posted by l3rok3n+Feb 2 2005, 09:06 PM--
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Ugh lol that guy is creepy. I don't even know how he turned white. I am sure it took a lot of time and money though.


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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by Rob » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:31 am

I think (if there actually is a god) that god is laughing his ass off on a daily basis, as he sends inhumane people like the lot of you all to hell, one by one.



God's word cannot be found in a book that was written by mankind. Mankind made it up. No one has ever spoken to god in person. Not now, and definitely not millennia ago.



Tolerate your fellow kin, regardless of how wrong they may seem in your eyes. And above all, do not be as naive as a sheep, to follow some written 'rules' in a book written by people millennia ago.

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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by GodsChild7 » Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:23 pm

Originally posted by Rob@Feb 3 2005, 10:31 AM

I think (if there actually is a god) that god is laughing his ass off on a daily basis, as he sends inhumane people like the lot of you all to hell, one by one.



God's word cannot be found in a book that was written by mankind. Mankind made it up. No one has ever spoken to god in person. Not now, and definitely not millennia ago.



Tolerate your fellow kin, regardless of how wrong they may seem in your eyes. And above all, do not be as naive as a sheep, to follow some written 'rules' in a book written by people millennia ago.

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God doesn't laugh whenever someone goes to hell, it breaks His heart. hell wasn't made for people, it was made for the devil and the fallen angels(demons), but God did know that people would end up goin there because of their actions. God isnt the one that sends you to hell, YOU ARE........Yes God does pass judgment on people but it is your actions that send you to hell, God offers everyone the opportunity to get forgiveness of their sins and ask Him into their heart so that they can make it into His kingdom.....Also all throughout the Old Testament, you can read about people talking to God. They actually had one day a year were God would come down in a the form of a cloud and speak to them. In order for them to actually talk to God, they had to have enough sacrifices to cover their sins because no sin could enter in the presence of God and if it did, then they died....But today we can talk to God anytime that we want because Jesus died and paid the price for us to be able to....He may not talk to us like we talk to Him but He speaks to us through His Word, through other people or even through signs, you just have to be listening and believeing that He will some how speak to you....

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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by SirPostAlot » Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:28 pm

Originally posted by yoaliens3000@Feb 2 2005, 10:54 PM

after marriage, no it is not a sin. before marriage, it definitely is.

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and because this country is full of republicans whom condem the fact of same-sex marriages getting married then its a sin 100% whenever we have sex, right, hun?



i dunno...personally if i was straight i would have sex before i get married...not becuase im a slut or a player but becuase i wouldn't want to wait becuase i find it ptless...soem people find it admirable - i could personally care less...



and since damn bush is in office, we can't get married so technically were not sinning at all if we have sex...



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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by yoaliens3000 » Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:37 pm

Originally posted by ~*~AiM_uSeR~*~+Feb 3 2005, 10:28 PM--
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and because this country is full of republicans whom condem the fact of same-sex marriages getting married then its a sin 100% whenever we have sex, right, hun?



i dunno...personally if i was straight i would have sex before i get married...not becuase im a slut or a player but becuase i wouldn't want to wait becuase i find it ptless...soem people find it admirable - i could personally care less...



and since damn bush is in office, we can't get married so technically were not sinning at all if we have sex...



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your trying to make this personal when it definitely is not. i dont have a vast hate for homosexual like u think i have. i dont see how u can label only republicans with that opinions. over 75% of the general public dont support it, not just republicans.



people dont decide what sins are. God does. it doesnt matter about peoples opinions. all i was stating was the christain view on sex and homsexuals, not just my opinion.



and your logic makes no sense at all. bc bush is in office its not a sin to participate in homosexual acts? what the hell? you seem to have forgotten my 3 step process to posting. must i remind you again darling?

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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by SirPostAlot » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:04 pm

Originally posted by yoaliens3000@Feb 3 2005, 09:37 PM

your trying to make this personal when it definitely is not. i dont have a vast hate for homosexual like u think i have. i dont see how u can label only republicans with that opinions. over 75% of the general public dont support it, not just republicans.



people dont decide what sins are. God does. it doesnt matter about peoples opinions. all i was stating was the christain view on sex and homsexuals, not just my opinion.



and your logic makes no sense at all. bc bush is in office its not a sin to participate in homosexual acts? what the hell? you seem to have forgotten my 3 step process to posting. must i remind you again darling?

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Haha, you don't need to remind me...



I didn't mean to say only that republicans were against same-sex marriage ... i know alot of democrats that are against it too but the majority of people against it are of the republican party...



I know sins are made by "god" or the people whom wrote the book...

But i personally don't think that "sins" are bad...i think that only things that are against the law (crimes, torts, w/e) are bad...



Having sex before marriage isn't a crime so i don't think its really that bad...



deos that make sence?



Im just saying that w/ bush in office - gays can't get married...

So if gays can't married then we can't wait for something that will never come, so technically we can do it whenever - right? Hmm...it sorta makes sence but not really...haha...oh well...



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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by yoaliens3000 » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:42 pm

i guess thats just something we will never agree on. i will never put my morals on the same level as man made laws. those laws are to keep society in place, not basis for morals. imo, thats a terrible attitude. but who am i to judge...

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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by l3rok3n » Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:03 am

Originally posted by ~*~AiM_uSeR~*~+Feb 3 2005, 10:04 PM--
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Haha, you don't need to remind me...



I didn't mean to say only that republicans were against same-sex marriage ... i know alot of democrats that are against it too but the majority of people against it are of the republican party...



I know sins are made by "god" or the people whom wrote the book...

But i personally don't think that "sins" are bad...i think that only things that are against the law (crimes, torts, w/e) are bad...



Having sex before marriage isn't a crime so i don't think its really that bad...



deos that make sence?



Im just saying that w/ bush in office - gays can't get married...

So if gays can't married then we can't wait for something that will never come, so technically we can do it whenever - right? Hmm...it sorta makes sence but not really...haha...oh well...



~Jeff~

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I don't think gay marriage will really be top on any presidents list to get to in many, many years. We have to fix social security, finish this damn war in Iraq, fix the education system, make gangs less of a threat and so many more things that I think need to be dealt with.
You called yesterday to basically say

That you care for me but that you're just not in love

Immediately I pretended to be feeling similarly

And led you to believe I was O.K.

To just walk away from the one thing

That's unyielding and sacred to me

Well I guess I'm trying to be nonchalant about it

And I'm going to extremes to prove I'm fine without you

But in reality I'm slowly losing my my mind

Underneath the guise of a smile gradually I'm dying inside

Friends ask me how I feel and I lie convincingly

'Cause I don't want to reveal the fact that I'm suffering

So I wear my disguise 'til I go home at night

And turn down all the lights and then break down and cry

So what do you do when somebody you're devoted to

Suddenly just stops loving you and it seems they haven't got a clue

Of the pain that rejection is putting you through

Do you cling to your pride and sing "I will survive"

Do you lash out and say "How dare you leave this way"

Do you hold on in vain as they just slip away

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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by Beautiful » Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:36 am

yea very true, but knowing our christian presidents whos against gay marriges, you never-ever know..
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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by SirPostAlot » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:32 am

yeah...

something happened in NY and i believe it was said "discriminatory" to not allow gays to marry *yaaa*...



But i bet bush will complain...and like threaten to cut funding to NY or w/e to get them back on his evil side...



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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by l3rok3n » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:47 am

Originally posted by ~*~AiM_uSeR~*~@Feb 4 2005, 11:32 PM

yeah...

something happened in NY and i believe it was said "discriminatory" to not allow gays to marry *yaaa*...



But i bet bush will complain...and like threaten to cut funding to NY or w/e to get them back on his evil side...



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I didn't hear that. Who decided that?
You called yesterday to basically say

That you care for me but that you're just not in love

Immediately I pretended to be feeling similarly

And led you to believe I was O.K.

To just walk away from the one thing

That's unyielding and sacred to me

Well I guess I'm trying to be nonchalant about it

And I'm going to extremes to prove I'm fine without you

But in reality I'm slowly losing my my mind

Underneath the guise of a smile gradually I'm dying inside

Friends ask me how I feel and I lie convincingly

'Cause I don't want to reveal the fact that I'm suffering

So I wear my disguise 'til I go home at night

And turn down all the lights and then break down and cry

So what do you do when somebody you're devoted to

Suddenly just stops loving you and it seems they haven't got a clue

Of the pain that rejection is putting you through

Do you cling to your pride and sing "I will survive"

Do you lash out and say "How dare you leave this way"

Do you hold on in vain as they just slip away

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Re: Is It A Sin?

Post by SirPostAlot » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:55 am

Originally posted by l3rok3n@Feb 4 2005, 11:47 PM



I didn't hear that. Who decided that?


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i heard it on the radio...

hmm...



let me go look for a cnn link...



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