Faith Vs. Family

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Faith Vs. Family

Post by SirPostAlot » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:52 pm

Just curious...we had a speaker at PFEW and he said that his faith was more important...he said that you can take away his family but you could never take away his faith...



i found it pretty insultful toward his family...



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Post by FranklinF » Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:09 pm

Faith and more inportantly God.... faith is so general and can mean a number of things but God and Family are very close on the list sometimes God takes a backseat to family even though i know that is wrong-MARY
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Re: Faith Vs. Family

Post by 309756 » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:04 am

I practice a different religion from my family; so I know what you mean.



They're evangelicals and I"m Unitarian.

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Post by _ofunsoundmind » Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:34 pm

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Post by turtbub » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:35 pm

I think you should make a third choice to the poll, like "both are equal" or something. I almost clicked Faith on the poll, because I would like to believe that my faith in God is more important than ANYTHING. But can I honestly vote "faith" and say that I would rather have my family taken away than my faith? I don't know...



So I think there should be a choice c) not sure.



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Post by !XogFog » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:38 pm

I aspire to "faith" but "family" might be more true.
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Post by PurplePoemPuppet » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:51 pm

It does seem like your family should be more important over your faith in God. One way to consider this is IF you believe in God, do you hold the being who created life itself adn therefore you lower than the family who was meant to create you? Not having any faith in God may make his statement seem like he could care less about anything else in his life, however, people and family are in our lives and are important as well. In a sense, if you were to "worship" anything, it'd probably not be any sort of member of your family because people are fallible whereas God is perfect. If you're going to love any one more than the other, it would seem *logically* that you love what is perfect and not those who could easily turn on you because they are imperfect.



In any case, it's not that family isn't important. In the list of priorities God just has that little edge over your family. I don't know if this is a good analogy, but if you think of your favorite sport and your second favorite sport (or something), it's not like the second one is shirked, the first one you just have a little more love for.
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Post by SirPostAlot » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:42 pm

yeah steph, that makes sence and all....its just that i listen to this statement and believe he is saying that he would give up his family to keep his faith...



hmm...i hope that makes sence...



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Post by XTorn2PiecesLPX » Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:42 am

Ok, what happens when you dont believe in god and your family doesnt believe in you...........I voted for my family because i dont believe in god, I agree with hannah, there should be a third choice.
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Post by Kit » Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:49 am

I don't really know how to answer that one. My family means a lot to me but they have also turned on me where God - hasn't..I turned on Him.



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Post by LilyMaid » Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:18 am

Since the role of religion in my life is negligible, my answer is that family is far more important to me than faith. I hold a humanist perspective, so it follows that I have much greater esteem for my human family than for my (absent) spiritual beliefs.



In everyday life, I interact with people who simply don't give religion much thought at all, so I am surprised to learn that religion takes priority for so many members.
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Post by Toy Soldier » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:28 am

I honestly believe that family is more important than faith...if I had to make a choice between the two, I'm afraid it would be my faith which has to go. I believe faith is important, but I value my family more so...if you lose your family, nobody can ever replace them, if you loose them, you loose them...my thoughts.



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Post by A! Elbereth » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:19 pm

Depends on your faith and how devoted you are to it. For me, faith should come first.
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Post by _ofunsoundmind » Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:34 pm

I should have ellaborated a bit with my answer, but I was getting ready to take Ethan to his grandma's house, so I apologize.



There is something called the "Divine Order." The order, according to some people, is as follows:



1. God

2. Marriage

3. Family

4. Church

5. Government



You're probably asking, "Why this order? How do I know that's how it's suposed to be?" The answer is this. Before God ever created the church, He created the family. Before God created the family, he created marriage (Adam & Eve). Before God created anything, it was Him.



I'm not telling you this is how you have to live your life. I'm not telling you this is what you have to believe. What you believe is fine. I'm not here to tell you you're "right" or "wrong." This is only what I believe.



I really believe that God was meant to be first in everyone's life. He gave His life for me, so the least I can do is to give that much back to Him. :)



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Re: Faith Vs. Family

Post by SirPostAlot » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:10 pm

^ that makes sence, but i believe in evolution...haha...its more logical and actually proven factual, to a certain extent...



for those 5 i would put it in the order:

family

marriage

gov't

church

god



but thasts just me...



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Re: Faith Vs. Family

Post by 309756 » Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:38 pm

Interesting. I disagree.... but I'm a materialist at heart.



So, different worldviews but same conclusion?



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Post by !XogFog » Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:45 am

Originally posted by SirPostAlot@Jul 26 2005, 07:10 PM

^ that makes sence, but i believe in evolution...haha...its more logical and actually proven factual, to a certain extent...



for those 5 i would put it in the order:

family

marriage

gov't

church

god



but thasts just me...



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Re: Faith Vs. Family

Post by __hazyxeyes » Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:59 am

Well, I'm Buddhist. My family and I don't get along, but they're my family... I'd be nowhere without them. So, I choose family.
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Re: Faith Vs. Family

Post by 309756 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:59 am

Perhaps you can put church before God if your church doesn't mandate belief in God--mine doesn't.

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