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So today, two very nice Mormon missionaries came to my door... they argued with me about theology for almost half an hour, and then they gave me a book of mromon and they told me to call them.



They basically foisted it upon me. Is there something wrong with this, or am I just being paranoid?



Just wondering. I was really nice to them!

Well, it has to do with their theology.



Jehovah's witnesses can come off as being a little aggressive with their "going to hell" doctrine--basically anyone who's not JW goes to hell.



But hey, how is this different from Catholic (like you said)? Or Southern Baptists? or Pentecostals?



With mainline protestantism moving towards a more universalistic viewpoint, this is what some would call the conservative backlash.



I'm happy that you can see JW's as people, not a religion.

Paranoid? They're just JWs.... we just don't answer when they come to our door. They obviously care to spread the word, but they can be a little over the top sometimes, so we avoid them. My family doesn't like conflict, even friendly conflict.



To me JWs have always been around. It's normal.

Originally posted by !XogFog+Jul 29 2005, 08:02 PM--

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Their theology is more different than that (selections from the Wikipedia article):

Belief that Jesus Christ, while the only-begotten Son of G-d who has existed since the beginning, is not the uncreate second person of G-d, but a created being (rejection of trinitarian doctrine)



Belief that the Holy Spirit is not the third person of G-d, or even a person at all, but a force (further rejection of trinitarian doctrine)



Belief that the doctrine of the Trinity is a belief system derived from various ancient pagan sources, defined by notions borrowed heavily from Neoplatonism, and lightly from Stoicism



Belief that Hell is the common grave of mankind and not a fiery place of torment.



The biggest one, of course, being a rejection of the trinitarian doctrine, which (along with you and the UUs, pandasandpenguins) has earned them the ire of many Christians.

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Right, but the UU's see God as a unity or one god, and some don't even see him/her as that, it's more of a force...



The Mormons see it as three distinct identities... it's a very interesting theological blend. Really? Neoplatonicism and all those doctrines? Wow.



Ooh, and they borrow from Arius, too. See how many people can disagree with trinitarian doctrines?

lol one day a mormon went to my freinds house she is a christian and doesnt have anything against them but they are argueing and shes all like i all ready know Jesus and they are like but do you know OUR Jesus... shes like nope i guess i am going to hell and slammed the door in thier faces... LOL that was grand but i believe the mormon faith is a little (nay alot) screwwy i tend to stay away from them -MARY

Originally posted by pandasandpenguins+Jul 29 2005, 10:03 PM--

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Their theology is more different than that (selections from the Wikipedia article):

Belief that Jesus Christ, while the only-begotten Son of G-d who has existed since the beginning, is not the uncreate second person of G-d, but a created being (rejection of trinitarian doctrine)



Belief that the Holy Spirit is not the third person of G-d, or even a person at all, but a force (further rejection of trinitarian doctrine)



Belief that the doctrine of the Trinity is a belief system derived from various ancient pagan sources, defined by notions borrowed heavily from Neoplatonism, and lightly from Stoicism



Belief that Hell is the common grave of mankind and not a fiery place of torment.



The biggest one, of course, being a rejection of the trinitarian doctrine, which (along with you and the UUs, pandasandpenguins) has earned them the ire of many Christians.

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Right, but the UU's see God as a unity or one god, and some don't even see him/her as that, it's more of a force...



The Mormons see it as three distinct identities... it's a very interesting theological blend. Really? Neoplatonicism and all those doctrines? Wow.



Ooh, and they borrow from Arius, too. See how many people can disagree with trinitarian doctrines?

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See how many people can end up on the "not recognized as Christian by the mainstream Christianity" list?

Yep, i hear ya.



Although i would not identify myself as exclusively Christian.

I just dislike ANYONE going to peoples doors about religion. I know they are spreading the word of their god, but still. I feel like when those people come to my door, they are pushing their religion on me. I had a JW tell me that i was going to hell one day. I looked at her and said "Its very rude to judge people, I thought only god could judge people....." She was like Im a spokes person sent from god. I was like Then go speak to someone else.....Im sorry, I just dont like being told that im wrong for not believing in anything......

Honestly, I can deal with JWs depending on my mood. I live in an apartment, and last year they got locks on the building doors so I don't get door-to-door people anymore. But, I live in Ann Arbor, so downtown is mostly just like campus for UofM and you meet the weirdest people there. It's hard to be somewhere there and not run into somebody talking about religion, sometimes I talk to them and sometimes I tell them to fuck off when the tell me I'm sinful and need to be saved.

*chuckles at the Jews for Jesus organization*

That's just SICK.



Dammit, the Great Commission has to do with SERVICE, rather than evangelization.

it's a little over the top when they come to ur house, use a church or whatever for that, a home is private and they have no right to harrass u

Yeah, they're like, fucking crazy.

I don't have a problem with religion until somebody knocks on my door telling me to find god and join their church. That's fucking overstepping their bounds.



I invite them in, calmly listen to them rant and rave about how great Jesus is, get a mormon bible, add it to my collection, and then whisk them away.



Or I just slam the door in their faces and tell them that religion is a CHOICE, and that people don't need help from people riding out around in suits on bicycles.



It all depends on my mood.



Cheers,



Jenna

oh funny story about a mormon missionary dude!



so mormons ride bikes while on their evangelical trips. two road by me, and i saw the second guy's tie.

it was like this:

Me: hey i like ur tie! -waves-

him: -turns around and winks- thank you! -waves-

-smacks into sign-



i ran away. i felt really bad, but i couldn't help but laugh. hehe.

Originally posted by xloveforsalex@Aug 10 2005, 07:39 PM

oh funny story about a mormon missionary dude!



so mormons ride bikes while on their evangelical trips. two road by me, and i saw the second guy's tie.

it was like this:

Me: hey i like ur tie! -waves-

him: -turns around and winks- thank you! -waves-

-smacks into sign-



i ran away. i felt really bad, but i couldn't help but laugh. hehe.

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HAHAHAHAHA.



Thank you for making my day.

heh, it's my pleasure.