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Sin?

Post by SirPostAlot » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:07 pm

Im just curious, because technically they are the same thing, you know? Except one you watch w/ your eyes and the other you read w/ your eyes and indireclty watch it w/ your eyes becusae (i at least) have a "movie" in my brain when i read...



Personally i say "no, no" cuz i don't think there is such a thing as a sin, its just right or wrong...



so what do you think





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Post by _ofunsoundmind » Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:58 pm

I believe they're both a sin, since I follow the Bible. The Bible says that lust is one of the seven deadly sins, and porn and erotica incite lust.



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Post by A! Elbereth » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:19 pm

Both are sins in my book.
Your soul.

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Your mind.


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Re: Sin?

Post by turtbub » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:41 pm

I say yes to both, but with a condition.



If when you look at the porn/read the books you are thinking about yourself doing all the things, having sex, etc, then YES they are sins. Which is what most people do, I assume.



But if you just like books like that, then I guess it wouldn't be. However, I don't think anyone reads them just because they like the books. :P



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Re: Sin?

Post by !XogFog » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:35 pm

Yes, both are sins.
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Re: Sin?

Post by 309756 » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:37 pm

From a secular perspective, these types of media are only harmful if they affect others' well-being.



But personally, I choose not to engage in such activities.

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Post by SirPostAlot » Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:39 pm

Originally posted by pandasandpenguins@Aug 15 2005, 08:37 PM

But personally, I choose not to engage in such activities.

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See this is why you are going to ivy-leage and im going to a state school :P haha...



I think, like i said before, no to both but if a person watches or reads it like a daily deed or w/e its not a sin i just find it sad...i mean every now and then or a few times a week or w/ isn't bad, but i know people who watch porn daily for hours, i don't understand it...haha



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Post by yoaliens3000 » Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:58 pm

Originally posted by SirPostAlot@Aug 14 2005, 10:07 PM

Personally i say "no, no" cuz i don't think there is such a thing as a sin, its just right or wrong...

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I dont see how you dont believe in sins though you believe in right or wrong. Believing in sins doesnt have to have anything to do with religion. Sins have to do with right or wrong.



pretty much in my eyes you just said nothing is wrong with porn, its perfectly alright.

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Re: Sin?

Post by SirPostAlot » Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:47 pm

Originally posted by yoaliens3000@Aug 20 2005, 07:58 PM

I dont see how you dont believe in sins though you believe in right or wrong. Believing in sins doesnt have to have anything to do with religion. Sins have to do with right or wrong.



pretty much in my eyes you just said nothing is wrong with porn, its perfectly alright.

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It may be the same as wrong, but i don't go around and say omg thats a sin, i say omg thast wrong...there is a difference in my eyes, because i don't want to say the word sin nor have anything affiliated w/ the religious concept...



I don't really see anything wrong w/ it...i mean obviously its wrong if its minors, because it sagainst the law and everyhting...

but the concept of porn, i don't see anything wrong w/ it



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Re: Sin?

Post by yoaliens3000 » Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:59 pm

Originally posted by SirPostAlot+Aug 20 2005, 09:47 PM--
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It may be the same as wrong, but i don't go around and say omg thats a sin, i say omg thast wrong...there is a difference in my eyes, because i don't want to say the word sin nor have anything affiliated w/ the religious concept...



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Normal catholics or other religious people dont do that either. I really wonder where you get your view of religious people, its really off. Maybe theres some wierd catholics who live by you or something. That sounds really childish to me to say omg I cant say sin because it may be affiliated with a religious topic. Your really going too way to far to excude yourself from anything with any religious nature.

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Re: Sin?

Post by Toy Soldier » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:39 pm

I don't see anything wrong with it, personally. HOWEVER, from the Bible perspective, its a sin. Jesus said to look at somebody lustfully was 'to comit sin in the minds eye' and also to 'tear out/off' the guilty eye, hand etc.



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Post by SirPostAlot » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:08 pm

yoaliens, its not like i try to avoid saying the word, its just when i say it i have bad memories or inclinations...

when i think of the word sin i think of a designed negative, a negative that is in the eyes of god...

im sick of people who base their lives around what is a sin and what is ok, i don't understand it...

people should focus on whats right verse whats wrong...yes a sin and a wrong doing are technically the same thing, but the terminolgy does something to me...when i think of sin i think of people bashing others by sinning their way of life or the way they do something...

i dunno, just where i grew up people use the word sin alot and its always affiliated w/ the religious aspect...

so indirectly i don't say the word sin, i say that is wrong...but i am not childish by avoiding the word sin because i don't want to speak religiously, its just not a word that comes off of my tounge...



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Post by Toy Soldier » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:16 pm

^^^I kinda understand what you mean. The word 'sin' is usually associated with religion and usually brings to me, the thoughts of a person having done something wrong (something petty) in Victorian times and being reprimanded for it :/



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Re: Sin?

Post by SirPostAlot » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:40 pm

Originally posted by Toy Soldier@Aug 21 2005, 10:16 PM

^^^I kinda understand what you mean. The word 'sin' is usually associated with religion and usually brings to me, the thoughts of a person having done something wrong (something petty) in Victorian times and being reprimanded for it :/



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yep, yep exactly...

like for instance, it is a sin to admire others possesitions, becuase it means you are demaning the possesions that you have; thus demeaning the possesions that god has given you because he directed you at the store to purchase the item or he gave you the gift to get the job that gave you the money that led to the purchase...



thats a sin, but is it wrong? no



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Re: Sin?

Post by yoaliens3000 » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:25 am

Originally posted by SirPostAlot+Aug 21 2005, 10:40 PM--
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yep, yep exactly...

like for instance, it is a sin to admire others possesitions, becuase it means you are demaning the possesions that you have; thus demeaning the possesions that god has given you because he directed you at the store to purchase the item or he gave you the gift to get the job that gave you the money that led to the purchase...



thats a sin, but is it wrong? no



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How is that not wrong? Getting jealous of other peoples things can bring tension with that relationship and can bring forth hate. You can also begin to be attached to material posessions, which is both wrong and "a sin." Religion can be shown in everyday life easily, theres alot of logic in it. Its not just the religions opinion. Even then, Sure it MAY be a sin, but its a way less serious sin. There are different types of sins you know... Its not that this sin is equal to murder.



By the way, sorry for taking your thread so off topic.

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Re: Sin?

Post by Paris In Flames » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:01 am

Who voted yes?



I don't think so. It's called fucking human nature. We all masturbate. We all fantasize. I'm sure Jesus did as well.



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Post by Rose'nShannenRox » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:38 am

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Post by Beautiful » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:19 am

.. I don't think either is a sin.
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Re: Sin?

Post by !XogFog » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:16 am

G-d is not a man, that He should be deceitful, nor a son of man that He should change His mind. (Numbers 23:19)



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